On Recode Decode, Kara Swisher interviews tech execs, politicians, celebrities and more about power, change, and big ideas. You can subscribe to the show for free wherever you listen to podcasts, including the places linked below:
Here are just a few of our favorite episodes:
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg (July 2018)
Topics include: The Cambridge Analytica scandal; the danger of over-regulating tech companies; and why if anyone should be fired for Facebook’s privacy stumbles, “It should be me.”
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (October 2018)
Topics include: What Facebook and the Obama administration knew about Russian election interference in 2016; why people tell women to stop talking; and the murder of Jamal Khashoggi and Donald Trump’s admiration of dictators.
Winners Take All author Anand Giridharadas (May 2019)
Topics include: Why “giving back is a wingman of taking ruthlessly”; the backlash to Jeff Bezos; and Bill McGlashan and the college admissions scandal.
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk (November 2018)
Topics include: The toll of Tesla’s craziest year on Musk and his employees; when SpaceX will send its first rocket to Mars; and “self-inflicted” wounds and sleep deprivation.
Former US deputy chief tech officer Nicole Wong (September 2018)
Topics include: The future of tech policy and why content moderation is more complicated than many people think; whether it’s time for a “slow food movement for the internet”; and China’s road to tech dominance.
The Daily host Michael Barbaro (June 2018)
Topics include: How Barbaro got into journalism and how he transitioned from being a political reporter to a self-described audio “geek”; what happens behind the scenes every day at The Daily; and why, in the edited interviews, he sometimes can be heard taking long ... pauses.
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism author Shoshana Zuboff (February 2019)
Topics include: Why maximizing shareholder value “scraped the life out of so many of our institutions and our businesses”; how surveillance capitalism was invented; and how tech companies are like magicians (and not in a good way).
She Said authors Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey (September 2019)
Topics include: How Kantor and Twohey reported stories about sexual harassment allegations against Harvey Weinstein; how Weinstein’s network of lawyers and advisers kept his misconduct under wraps; and why they interviewed Christine Blasey Ford, the college professor who testified in Congress that Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in 1982.
Time Well Spent founder Tristan Harris (May 2019)
Topics include: How Time Well Spent was co-opted by the tech industry; why Harris shifted to focus on a related problem caused by tech, “human downgrading”; and why Facebook and YouTube are worse than Shell and Exxon.
Comedian Kathy Griffin (March 2019)
Topics include: The notorious photoshoot that got Griffin investigated by the Secret Service; why she had to distribute her newest stand-up special herself; and Griffin’s issues with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and why “he should resign.”