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Watch the full interview: Patreon CEO Jack Conte and Susie Meister, host of The Brain Candy Podcast

Meister may be better known from MTV’s “Road Rules.”

Patreon CEO Jack Conte and Susie Meister of MTV’s ‘Road Rules’ Asa Mathat

Patreon founder and CEO Jack Conte took the Code Media stage with The Brain Candy Podcast host (and Patreon artist) Susie Meister to talk about the successes and challenges of his not-a-tip-jar payment system for creators.

Watch the full interview below:


This article originally appeared on Recode.net.