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Mario Batali loves fighting on Twitter and showing you happiness on Instagram. He doesn’t get Snapchat.

What about YouTube? “I’m pretty sure my teen puts things on YouTube.”

Chef Mario Batali onstage at Code Commerce with Kara Swisher Keith MacDonald
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Culinary superstar Mario Batali came to Recode’s Code Commerce conference and talked to Kara Swisher about lots of stuff: GMOs, minimum wage, why he’s generally uninterested in food technology, and much more.

But you’re here, on the internet. So let’s tell you what he had to say about the way he uses the internet — specifically, different social media platforms.

Twitter: It’s “where I find the best [place] to pick a fight when I’m bored ... Twitter gives me an opportunity to meet a lot of people, many of whom don’t agree with me but follow me anyway. So they’ll say something preposterous, and I’ve learned not to tolerate preposterousness.”

“I’m not worried about the downside. People [worry that], if you say something about Trump’s policy, the people who support Trump won’t come to your restaurant. And I say, ‘Who the fuck cares?’ They’ll come to my restaurants when they’re hungry, not because I agree with their politics.”

Instagram: “It’s more me showing you how I think happiness can be recognized. I’m just happy on Instagram ... I rarely take a picture of me. It’s more like what I’m looking at.”

YouTube: “I don’t really go to YouTube per se. But I’m pretty sure my teen puts things on YouTube.”

Snapchat: “I think I’m just aged out. I don’t understand it. I believe Snapchat started for my children to show their friends their genitals very quickly. And I think that older people are trying to get ahold of that right now. But I don’t want to be in that room.”

Watch the full interview below.

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