/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54228947/Mike.0.jpg)
Even before President Trump took office, Axios co-founder Mike Allen has been trying to tell readers what he sees and hears coming out of Trump’s inner circle. And despite constant turmoil in those circles, and a wealth of hungry competitors also trying to peer in, he has been able to sustain access to the White House.
So, how does he do it? On the latest episode of Recode Media with Peter Kafka, Allen said Trump & co are not so different from any other embattled public figures.
“The way that reporters do that is convincing people that you understand what’s happening,” he said. “You’re going to give people a fair shake, that you’re going to describe what’s really happening. You’re not just going to be literally accurate, but also what you write is going to be more broadly true, that you can connect the dots.”
You can listen to the new podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, TuneIn, Stitcher and SoundCloud.
Allen made a name for himself writing about D.C. for D.C. insiders at Politico before leaving in 2016 to start Axios with Jim VandeHei and Roy Schwartz. These days, he writes a daily newsletter called Axios AM: Mike’s Top 10 that is intended for a much broader audience — busy people who want to be smarter.
“People are starving, hungry, desperate for illumination about the Trump White House, about what’s going on, and we’re able to do that,” he said. “It got us off on an incredible start, we’ve taken off like a rocket ship. And a big part of it is, we can help people understand this crazy world.”
He said his track record of relaying the goings-on of power players is the key to why sources continue to talk to him.
“When they’re fighting a fight, when they’re in the war, then they need to explain themselves more than ever,” Allen said of the Trump camp. “Often, when someone is fighting, they’re even more eager to explain something to you so you understand it.”
“By and large, people think they believe in what they’re doing,” he added. “If you believe in what you’re doing at all, whether you’re on the defense or you’re on the offense, if you believe in what you’re doing, you want me to understand it, and you want me to explain it and convey it.”
If you like this show, you should also sample our other podcasts:
- Recode Decode, hosted by Kara Swisher, is a weekly show featuring in-depth interviews with the movers and shakers in tech and media every Monday. You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, TuneIn, Stitcher and SoundCloud.
- Too Embarrassed to Ask, hosted by Kara Swisher and The Verge’s Lauren Goode, answers all of the tech questions sent in by our readers and listeners. You can hear new episodes every Friday on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, TuneIn, Stitcher and SoundCloud.
- And finally, Recode Replay has all the audio from our live events, such as the Code Conference, Code Media and the Code Commerce Series. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, TuneIn and Stitcher.
If you like what we’re doing, please write a review on Apple Podcasts — and if you don’t, just tweet-strafe Peter. Tune in next Thursday for another episode of Recode Media!
This article originally appeared on Recode.net.