Editor’s note: The podcast embedded below discusses the themes and story of "Blade Runner 2049," including the fate of some of the major characters. The quoted highlights, however, do not.
Before the action starts in the new film “Blade Runner 2049,” we’re informed that production of the humanlike androids from the first “Blade Runner,” known as Replicants, was outlawed and then rebooted between the two movies. The person responsible for the reboot is also one of the film’s antagonists — Niander Wallace, played by Jared Leto.
“I was in L.A. at the screening and went to the party afterwards,” Leto said on the latest episode of Recode Decode, hosted by Kara Swisher. “And people were just giving me this look. Usually it’s like, ‘Ahh, good job!’ It was like, ‘I don’t want to talk to that guy.’ I didn’t kill any real people, did I?”
At the time of the interview’s recording, following a screening of the film at the Alamo Drafthouse in San Francisco, Leto acknowledged he had not yet seen the full movie.
On the new podcast, Leto — who’s also a the frontman of the band 30 Seconds to Mars and a prolific tech investor — hinted that he drew inspiration for Wallace from some real people.
“This is a guy who saved the world from starvation and has a very clear idea of what it’s going to take in order for civilization to continue,” he said. “I do have some friends in the tech world that I may or may not have based certain aspects of this character on.”
However, he refused to say exactly who he had in mind. If you’d like to speculate wildly, feel free to consult Leto’s past investments, which include Reddit, Houseparty and Zenefits.
He also pushed back on the idea that tech in particular is responsible for societal problems, arguing that “the entire fucking world is dark.” He predicted that, much like the Industrial Revolution, the world will emerge on the other side of the tech boom with more jobs and prosperity, not less.
“We’re all obsessed with being productive, and we find new ways to dream,” Leto said. “In order to accomplish those dreams, it takes the efforts of so many of us. I don’t necessarily think that just because we’re driving and we’re not on horseback that there are less jobs now. The Industrial Revolution didn’t lead to less jobs, it led to more jobs, so I think that probably will continue for some time. But I’m just an artist, what do I know?”
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This article originally appeared on Recode.net.