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Full video: Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins at Code 2016

Cisco got its start in hardware, but it's moving into more software and services.

Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins talked with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2016 Code Conference about how he's trying to evolve Cisco beyond its hardware roots to a business driven by software and online services. Here's the full video of the interview.

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No one company can do everything, Robbins said, which is why he has partnered with and invested in many other tech companies and startups. Perhaps the best-known of those partners: Apple.

Robbins also discussed the Internet of Things and what he thinks of hot enterprise startups that compete with Cisco, such as Slack.

This article originally appeared on Recode.net.