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Full video: TMZ founder Harvey Levin at Code 2016

Yes to paid tips, no to freaking out over Gawker-Hogan-Thiel.

At the 2016 Code Conference, TMZ founder Harvey Levin talked with Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka about the business of fast-paced reporting on the entertainment world. Here's the full video of the interview.

And via our podcast Recode Replay, here is the full audio of Levin's appearance:

He argued that the line between television and the internet will disappear within the next decade and disputed the notion that Peter Thiel's campaign against Gawker Media is a big deal.

Levin also defended the practice of paying for photos and videos, although he said he couldn't remember the last time TMZ paid for a news tip.

This article originally appeared on Recode.net.