At the 2016 Code Conference, TMZ founder Harvey Levin talked with Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka about the business of fast-paced reporting on the entertainment world. Here's the full video of the interview.
And via our podcast Recode Replay, here is the full audio of Levin's appearance:
He argued that the line between television and the internet will disappear within the next decade and disputed the notion that Peter Thiel's campaign against Gawker Media is a big deal.
Levin also defended the practice of paying for photos and videos, although he said he couldn't remember the last time TMZ paid for a news tip.
This article originally appeared on Recode.net.