For some journalists, landing a writing job at a prestigious outlet like the New York Times would be enough. For Jenna Wortham, that job is just part of the story.
On the latest episode of Re/code Media with Peter Kafka, Wortham outlined her unconventional rise to the NYT, whose job offer she initially rejected. There, her current day job is writing for the New York Times Magazine about technology’s influence on culture, education, health and more. In addition, she has pursued several side projects, including frequent self-funded travel and the journalism-as-live-performance show Pop-Up Magazine.
"Being a journalist in 2016 means constantly reinventing yourself," Wortham said.
On the new podcast, she also talks about why "Amazon Prime is the devil" and her concerns about the on-demand economy, which makes life more convenient for customers at the expense of workers.
"Every time I get into an Uber, I ask, ‘How many hours have you been driving?’ and they’re like, ’18!'" she said. "That’s not okay."
Wortham joined the Times magazine staff after a stint covering daily technology and business news when she was first hired. She explained that daily reporting was exciting but not fulfilling because the constant pace left her unable to chase offbeat stories.
"I spent years looking at bros in Silicon Valley," Wortham said. "Many of them are wonderful, but they’re all very similar. … I always wanted to be in this business because I wanted to write about people who look like me."
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