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'Re/code Decode': CollegeHumor's Ricky Van Veen Says Mark Zuckerberg More Powerful Than Rupert Murdoch

"What used to be 'surfing the Web' is now 'surfing Facebook.'"

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Okay, you’ve made some cool stuff that a bunch of people on the Internet seem to like. Good for you.

But that’s barely table stakes, according to CollegeHumor co-founder Ricky Van Veen, the first guest on Peter Kafka’s new special series of "Re/code Decode" interviews.

"Just because you have an audience, doesn’t mean you’re going to make any money," Van Veen said. "Anything that is premium in digital, people will have to pay something, or it can’t get made."

The entrepreneur also talked about his recent essay for Media Redefined, in which he argued "Mark Zuckerberg is the most powerful person who has ever lived," and why Internet guys like him are looking to old platforms like television to make money. He also discussed what sort of online content does make money, and how he’s able to be "undercover well-known," unlike his wife — "Girls" star Allison Williams.

"The difference is, I could go out and have people not ask for selfies with me everywhere," he said.

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This article originally appeared on Recode.net.