On the latest episode of “Re/code Decode,” Kara Swisher interviewed B.J. Novak, who you likely know from TV, and Dev Flaherty of The List App, a mobile-social app for making lists.
As always, you can listen to the audio version of the interview here on our site, or click here to listen to “Re/code Decode” on iTunes. But this week, the Red Chair interview is also available in video form:
This article originally appeared on Recode.net.