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'Re/code Decode': B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty Talk Start-Ups and Hollywood (Full Video)

"The best creativity comes when you give people an extremely blank form."

On the latest episode of “Re/code Decode,” Kara Swisher interviewed B.J. Novak, who you likely know from TV, and Dev Flaherty of The List App, a mobile-social app for making lists.

As always, you can listen to the audio version of the interview here on our site, or click here to listen to “Re/code Decode” on iTunes. But this week, the Red Chair interview is also available in video form:

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This article originally appeared on Recode.net.