Nest's Tony Fadell on the Internet of Things and Apple (Video)

Tony Fadell hates the term “Internet of Things.” And yet that’s the exact stock in trade of Nest, the smart thermostat maker and one of the most closely watched companies in the “things” space.

Fadell gave his thoughts on the current status of the company at the inaugural Code Conference, just three months after the company was acquired by Google for more than $3 billion. He spoke about how Nest is run as a separate entity independent of Google, his thoughts on Apple’s Beats acquisition and what it means to be truly innovative in hardware. (Hint: Don’t focus on the hardware.)

Check out the highlights in the video below.

This article originally appeared on Recode.net.

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